Comments on: Justice doing in community work & therapy: from ‘burnout’ to solidarity by Vikki Reynolds https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/ A gateway to narrative therapy and community work Mon, 12 Oct 2020 02:25:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.2 By: vikki reynolds https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/comment-page-1/#comment-55884 Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:24:46 +0000 http://dulwichcentre.com.au/?p=2442#comment-55884 In reply to Ian Marsh.

Hey Ian, about the mixed metaphors- bring it!
lovely reflection, and speaks to the important connections in our work. You have informed much of my analysis since our connection, and I have a deeper understanding of some of the histories of these ideas for knowing your important work.
Really appreciate you taking the time to listen and respond. in solidarity vik

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By: vikki reynolds https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/comment-page-1/#comment-55883 Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:22:04 +0000 http://dulwichcentre.com.au/?p=2442#comment-55883 In reply to Ítalo Latorre Gentoso.

lovely Italo, so many points of connection in solidarity with our work that happens in such different context but with shared ethics of justice-doing, respect vik

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By: vikki reynolds https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/comment-page-1/#comment-55882 Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:20:54 +0000 http://dulwichcentre.com.au/?p=2442#comment-55882 In reply to Shelly Bonnah.

hey Shelley, this is late, but heartfelt
your solidarity
and the threads of connection that hold our work up are so important to me
gratitude for your reflection vik

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By: vikki reynolds https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/comment-page-1/#comment-55881 Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:19:38 +0000 http://dulwichcentre.com.au/?p=2442#comment-55881 In reply to Paul Clark.

Hey Paul, so sorry I didn’t see your response until now..well said and a social poetic, in solidarity vik

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By: vikki reynolds https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/comment-page-1/#comment-55880 Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:18:16 +0000 http://dulwichcentre.com.au/?p=2442#comment-55880 In reply to Anny Rodjito.

Thanks so much for your response Anny, it is so important to know the work resonates, because that is what feeds my hope and solidarity
peace vik

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By: Anny Rodjito https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/comment-page-1/#comment-49371 Wed, 07 Nov 2018 01:06:33 +0000 http://dulwichcentre.com.au/?p=2442#comment-49371 In reply to Anny Rodjito.

I was so excited tripping over myself (obviously my typing is much slower than how the words/thoughts were popping into my heads!). I wanted to share that two things really struck me. One, the idea that mental health or people’s experiences have been neatly squeezed in a box by mental health diagnosis; and the other, about selfcare being a collective care. Thank you so much for this.

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By: Anny Rodjito https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/comment-page-1/#comment-49368 Wed, 07 Nov 2018 00:10:58 +0000 http://dulwichcentre.com.au/?p=2442#comment-49368 I am sitting here with my jaw somewhere on the floor. Actually it fell several times as you spoke. First it was about activism. Never thought of myself as one, I am a ‘follow the rules’ kinda person all along, as I wanted to be ‘good’. Well, I think I’m at an age where I could gladly say, am not anymore! I had grown up being told that my elders knew better. That “medicalised & sanitised” terms of suffering hides the human sufferings and injustices. I know that I’ve been getting rather annoyed when someone is immediately dismissed as PD (personality disorder) as though that explains why we can treat the person a certain way. Like it’s strange for a person to be in despair after being physically and mentally abused for the last 30 years??

Your other self-care idea as the breakdown of our resilience, as it’s not just a personal responsibility of not being able to take care of ourselves, so hence burnout. I love what you said “Burnout denies that it’s social structures of inequity and social injustice that harm all of us.” Butting our heads against discourses, norms… I was falling off my chair laughing so hard when you said you drank water and did yoga, but doing those have not built one housing unit in your city 🙂

I’d write more, but these are the two that I thought I’d share with you. Hearing you, have firmed up my belief in doing more of what I have been doing, to connect more deeply with the people who come to see me, to get to know their stories, their actions of fighting against injustices and norms that have caused harm to them. To continue doing those “immeasurable outcomes” because they do matter.

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By: Paul Clark https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/comment-page-1/#comment-3143 Fri, 04 Sep 2015 04:35:52 +0000 http://dulwichcentre.com.au/?p=2442#comment-3143 A great presentation Vikki there is so much in what you say. So answering “How can we move from individualist understandings of ‘burnout’ and ‘self-care’ and towards considerations of solidarity and ‘collective car’? the most powerful line in Vikki’s communication was understanding sites of connection and the fluidity of imperfect allies. Being a blade of grass in the interaction and accepting the points of connection that are created in the interaction. Resisting empowering self-ideologies that cause injurious division and dignifying the innateness of the other persons experience. Providing options for the clients humanity, looking for collective ethics of the other by “leaning in” to their experience. With collective accountability we can hold onto privilege and power in our own experience while fostering sustainability in ongoing aliveness and genuine connectedness with people. Critically engaging in language that empowers innateness of the persons experiential schema and contesting of normalized language that segments, isolates, shallowly quantifies a persons being.
Excellent understanding Vikki and thanks

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By: Shelly Bonnah https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/comment-page-1/#comment-3142 Fri, 04 Sep 2015 04:35:24 +0000 http://dulwichcentre.com.au/?p=2442#comment-3142 Hi Vikki,
I am deeply touched by Joe’s story, and want to thank you for your delivery of such a powerful example of solidarity. Thank you for contesting the theories, the blame, and the structures that so commonly divide us and spiritually hurt us. It is not Joe who hurts us. From your attached article, I was struck by the following quote:

I wonder about the difference it might make for
clients to know that they change us too. I believe
that clients contribute to our lives, whether we
acknowledge them or not. We are transformed in the
work, and that’s not just acceptable, it is desirable,
as it fosters our collective sustainability. We need to
continually find ways to accountably tell clients that
these relationships matter to us, and that they
change us!

Celebrating Imperfect Solidarity,
Shelly Bonnah

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By: Ítalo Latorre Gentoso https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/comment-page-1/#comment-3141 Fri, 04 Sep 2015 04:35:02 +0000 http://dulwichcentre.com.au/?p=2442#comment-3141 Hi Vikki,

Thanks very much for your presentation. I am very moved, despite is not at all the first time I’m in touch with your work, with these ideas of justice, solidarity and practice.

But I’m not just moved, I’m inspired, I’m drawn into, I’m again thinking how much we have to do to make these ideas and theory available for practitioners for them (us) be able to translated them into practice.

I think I got moved by these cos here in Latin America, specially in Chile were I live, there is a great need to justice and to me our therapeutic work (that’s my realm of work) should be informed be different ideas from the dominant ones. That’s why I work through stories and narrative practice, but I reckon it should be more discussion around this themes involving justice and their implications for work.

I’m not sharing to much here this time, but found very important to say: “thanks, this work is impacting my practice, and hope my practice is impacting people’s lives… I’m trying to try my best”.

In solidarity,
Ítalo

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By: Ian Marsh https://dulwichcentre.com.au/justice-doing-in-community-work-therapy-from-burnout-to-solidarity-by-vikki-reynolds/comment-page-1/#comment-3140 Fri, 04 Sep 2015 04:34:32 +0000 http://dulwichcentre.com.au/?p=2442#comment-3140 Hey Vikki – I enjoyed watching your presentation very much. You frame the issues around doing social justice work brilliantly I think. I liked your analysis of how certain words / notions (e.g. ‘burnout’, ‘suicide’, ‘trauma’) often work to individualise the issues & debate, & thus hide political / social / historical sources of injustice. As you point out, such ‘individualising’ (& subtly blaming) language practices are everyday ones, & hard to resist I think. You do a great job of drawing attention to (making visible) the ethical, social, historical, political contexts of issues like ‘suicide’ & ‘trauma’.

I also really liked the fact you made use of the notions of ‘revolutionary love’ & ‘the social divine’, & that you noted how little these are talked of in therapy & social justice work. I thought the story of how you rang the detox worker Julie to tell her that she had helped keep Joe alive seemed to me to show this ‘revolutionary love’ in action. Making these events & experiences visible is important I think. I wonder if using more often a language that included notions such as ‘revolutionary love’ & the ‘social divine’ could be useful counterweights / resistance to the awful & impoverished language of ‘outcome measures’, ‘risk assessment’, ‘quantifiable metrics’ & so on? Maybe such ways of speaking can make visible aspects of practice / interaction / connection otherwise buried or lost, & can perhaps wrongfoot & disrupt dominant ‘individualising’ assumptions? Thanks, Ian (apologies for all the mixed metaphors!)

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